A WARNING TO UKIP SUPPORTERS NOT TO SWITCH TO EUROSCEPTIC TORIES

The respected Eurofacts journal a fortnightly publication which has been fighting for over ten years as we have ourselves has made the suggestion that in any coming General Election those euroeceptic voters in constituencies with a Conservative standing for withdrawal from Europe should vote for that party instead of UKIP.

DON’T HAVE ANY OF IT.

The case for the Eurofacts view follows:

Eurofacts

12^th May-2006

Vol 11 No 15

MP’s throw their weight behind Better Off Out Campaign.

Members of the 2005 intake of MPs are among those who have given their support to a new campaign for Britain’s withdrawal from the European Union.

Until a few weeks ago only one member of the House of Commons -Philip Davies, the member for Shipley -was publicly committed to seeking Britain’s withdrawal from the European Union.

Shared Objectives

On the 26^th April, however, nine Conservative MP’s attended the launch of the

Freedom Association’s

Better Off Out [of Europe]

Campaign.

According to the TFA [The Freedom Association], eight of these declared their support for the campaign’s objective of withdrawal from the EU.

Of those attending -Douglas Carswell, the member for Harrogate, Philip Hollobone (Kettering), David Davies (Monmouth, and Philip Davies himself -entered the House at the last General Election and have sacrificed whatever prospects for advancement they might have possessed as a result of their involvement.

Also attending were Eric Forth, Christopher Chope, Bob Spink, Sir Nicholas Winterton, and Lady Winterton.

The disparity between anti-EU sentiment as reflected in the House of Commons and that in the country is, of course still vast: eight or nine out of 659 scarcely reflects the rising tide of euro-sceptism.

[Well! We just have to say as we have so often during the last few years

PR-Proportional Representation

The lack of it which is responsible for NO democratic representation for the millions of voters in this country who’s views have been ignored by the

Conservative

Labour

LibDem

Parties.

In the letter section of the same publication of Eurofacts one of their correspondents has aptly put our point of view - under the heading

Untrustworthy Tories

Dear Sir,

Following David Cameron’s statement that no Eurosceptic MP would serve on his front bench I believe those who have been advocating a vote [Frederick Forsyth] for the Conservative party as a means of saving us from the EU owe us all an apology.

As has proved the case time and again the Conservatives are NOT TO BE TRUSTED on the matter and if future generations wish to find the main culprits for betraying this nation to the FEDERALISTS the need look no further than those who have run that party in the past fifty years.

Colin Bullen

Kent

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[We hear from Frederick Forsyth that destroying first class patriots [Conservative euro-sceptic MPs] must leave Kenneth Clarke roaring with laughter. Well if the voters fall into the trap of thinking that a vote for a euro-sceptic Conservative will advance the cause of withdrawal from the EU then Mr Nice-Guy Dave will be having a louder but silent laugh at his success in reducing the UKIP vote without giving anything away and simply having toleration of the euro-sceptics within his party where he will see that they cause no trouble.

Mr Forsyth says that without UKIP 58 of the 60 Tory seats would have reduced Blair’s majority to 13 and would probably toppled him. But what would have happened to advance the cause of withdrawal from the EU within the Conservative party-

NOTHING

ONLY when there is a clear Conservative policy of withdrawal from the EU would we consider it worthy of support.

It should be bourn in mind that it is ONLY the growing strength of UKIP, which will finally get the main parties to reconsider their stance on the EU.

We need to remind Mr Forsyth that the UKIP presence in the EU Parliament has seen many disclosures of the massive corruption and the dilatory way the voting system works which would explain the unending flood of Regulations and Directives heading our way -the last count was a least a billion.

Finally Mr Forsyth needs to understand that time is not on our side and that whatever the number of MPs converted to the Euro-sceptic lobby it is their leadership which must be toppled first.]

To continue:

But taken in conjunction with the creation of a new euro-sceptic group in the Lords (see page 5) the launch of

‘BETTER OFF OUT’

-is a significant development and perhaps a historic one.

[Over the past decade there has been a steady flow of euro-sceptic organisations all proudly proclaiming their agenda which will not list for the present but we wonder WHY there is no stickability because those on the other side of the line know what they want and it must be confusing to say the least to see yet again another launch of the same product but under another heading.

Could it be a matter of personalities instead of focusing on the vital matter in hand, which is making the battle much harder to win than it might have been?

We leave the answer to future historians to discover.]

To continue:

The Conservative leader has responded to the development by making it clear that those involved cannot expect advances in their careers, but he has stopped short of threatening to deselect them in accordance with assurances he gave during the party leadership campaign.

Were he to change his mind he would risk a civil war within the party ranks and the loss of some key financial supporters.

Significant Step

Mr Davies told eurofacts: “ The important thing is that we have put down a marker. [We thought they did that before Maastricht?] The issue of membership is no longer an issue that is widely spoken of outside Parliament but can’t be talked about inside Parliament.

That’s a significant step forward. We know of others who are sympathetic in our aims [Haven’t we heard this so many times over the past 35 years -we remember John Redwood and many others of his clan in their countryside vigil telling us to be patient for just a few more years so many years ago] not just in the Conservative Party, and we hope that in time they may join us.” [By the tone of this plea you would think that the issue has never been around for over the last three decades.]

Mark Wallace, the Freedom Association’s Campaign Manager commented:

“ We are confident that when MPs discover that nothing has happened to those who lent their support and remain free to speak their minds the number supporting the campaign will grow. We hope that MPs will pass on information about the EU as well as data about the rising level of support for withdrawal.”

[We read the above with disbelief at the naivety of the comments as if the matter in hand was other than the

INDEPENDENCE of a NATION STATE of 1400 years in the making with its accompanying

CROWN-LORDS -COMMONS-JUDICIARY

AND

RIGHTS & LIBERTIES.

The Party Leaders will be delighted with the message because they know that so long as they allow their euro-sceptic’s to voice their views they will proceed as quickly as possible with some cosmetic changes in the EU to blind them that they are making progress whereas in reality they are being taken for a ride.]

Unambiguous Commitment

Although the launch of

‘BETTER OFF OUT’

Is intended as a non-party group its launch was attended only by the Conservative MPs.

Roger Knapman, leader of UKIP, warmly welcomed the development. He should perhaps have gone further by making it clear that UKIP will not field candidates in constituencies where incumbent candidates have taken the pledge to support withdrawal.

[WE DISAGREE WITH THE ABOVE COMMENTS AND KNOW THAT GREAT DAMAGE TO UKIP WILL RESULT OF SUCH A POLICY.

The sole fact that the UK Independence Party is what its name implies is sufficient for those who want

OUT OF THE EU

-rather than dissipate the numbers by voting for Parties who have a Policy of closer Union with the EU.

We have to ask who is funding this FRONT which is whatever it says wishes to impede the progress of UKIP with false promises which we have all heard before.

As an observer of the political scene for over ten years we ask those tempted to support those possibly supposed euro-sceptic MPs from other parties to instead keep with the Party, which has a MANDATE to leave the EU

THE

UK INDEPENDENCE PARTY.

What you see -is what you get!

No ifs! or buts!

To continue:

In the past we [eurofacts] have argued that UKIP should refrain from fielding candidates in the relatively small number of instances where an incumbent Tory or Labour MP had proved their eurosceptic credentials; but since in all cases those credentials did not include an unambiguous commitment to back British withdrawal we also acknowledged the strength of the counter argument.

Times have changed: whatever their party allegiance there can be no credible reason for UKIP to compete against Mr Davies and other MPs who join his banner.

[WE DISAGREE WITH THIS VIEW

It is too late in the day for this sudden conversion of MPs of other parties to expect that they should be rewarded with a clear run in a General Election when the party to which the candidate belongs has no policy of withdrawal OUT OF THE EU.

It is ONLY the growing strength of

UKIP

which will eventually force a party to change its Pro-EU policy. To think that at this stage of the game to use that phrase that the other parties will keel over on their EU policy because they have a fold of compliant euro-sceptics within is plainly fatuous.

Mr Frederick Forsyth has thoughtfully provided some practical suggestions how readers can back Mr Davies and the TFA campaign which we will not list as it is now water under the bridge -time has past and the ONLY effective way to persuade the main parties is for EVERY euro-sceptic voter to vote

UKIP

It is obvious the Conservatives particularly are nervous about the opposition to their Pro-EU policy and they hope to minimise the threat at the next General Election by claiming to be tolerant of euro-sceptic MPs.

Our message is for those voters in constituencies where the Labour or Conservative incumbent MP are euroscepic is DON’T

‘Submit yourself’

Instead

‘Be truly converted’

and

VOTE

UKIP

THE ONLY PARTY WITH A MANDATE TO LEAVE THE EU

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